Will the plane take off :: The Ultimate Debate

[PhaLanX]

Originally Posted by SiR MuMbLeZ

Correct me if I am wrong but when you are running on a treadmill you feel wind right? So when the plane is going this fast it would already be trying to lift off the conveyor belt because of the wind underneath its wind creating the lift.

Someone should send this to the Myth Busters show.

Right concept... but not really. The conveyor belt does not create wind. The concept... that peolpe are still missing, is that they are thinking of it as a car. The cars engine controls its wheels, which propel the car.

A plane, however... is propelled by the thrusting of air through the engines. The engines to not move the wheels which then move the plan. The wheels simply roll.

[StlcKs]

All right, since my previous post I've been sitting here thinking about this for like 15 minutes. I've also been reading the other posts, and this is what I'm thinking.

The treadmill doesn't even matter because the airplanes wheels are just going on their own, they are not being powered by any sort of force such as cars wheels would be powered by a cars engine. An airplanes wheels are just kind of their, holding the airplane up.

The airplanes engine is propelling the airplanes thrusters (which is not connected to the ground, so speed of the treadmill wouldn't make a difference), whereas a cars engine is propelling the cars wheels. And the wheels are connected to the ground, so what is going on on the ground makes a difference for a car.

So I'm thinking that the airplane would take off, and it doesn't even matter if the treadmill was there. It would take off normally.

Hopefully that made sense. lol

[AMidgetAndAClub]

Originally Posted by MaxVelocity

Yes it will.

I kind of looked at it like a treadmill, if you're running on a treadmill, and it's going the same speed you are, but opposite, you aren't moving forward, but you aren't losing speed. To take off in a plane, you have to reach a certain speed, and then lift off of the ground.

If the plane is already at the speed, the pilot could just do whatever pilots do to take off, and he would be able to. Just because he isn't moving forward doesn't mean that the speed that the pilot is at won't allow the plane to have enough lift or speed to get moving in the air.

The plane will need to move forward through the air to create lift. But it still will because the wheels are free rolling. The motor will still push the plain.

Originally Posted by SiR MuMbLeZ

Someone should send this to the Myth Busters show.

December 12th they are doing a show with a "super treadmill" and a lightweight aircraft.

[dandamanyo22]

Originally Posted by AMidgetAndAClub

I hope you don't crash the plane.

and I hope you never fly a plane due to the fact that you think wheels are there to just make the plane roll when infact they have brakes on them, and there what stop you when you hit the ground.

[AMidgetAndAClub]

Originally Posted by StlcKs

All right, since my previous post I've been sitting here thinking about this for like 15 minutes. I've also been reading the other posts, and this is what I'm thinking.

The treadmill doesn't even matter because the airplanes wheels are just going on their own, they are not being powered by any sort of force such as cars wheels would be powered by a cars engine. An airplanes wheels are just kind of their, holding the airplane up.

The airplanes engine is propelling the airplanes thrusters (which is not connected to the ground, so speed of the treadmill wouldn't make a difference), whereas a cars engine is propelling the cars wheels. And the wheels are connected to the ground, so what is going on on the ground makes a difference for a car.

So I'm thinking that the airplane would take off, and it doesn't even matter if the treadmill was there. It would take off normally.

Hopefully that made sense. lol

You got it perfect.

[AMidgetAndAClub]

Originally Posted by dandamanyo22

and I hope you never fly a plane due to the fact that you think wheels are there to just make the plane roll when infact they have brakes on them, and there what stop you when you hit the ground.

The brakes stop the plane. They cause friction to slow the plane.

[StlcKs]

Originally Posted by dandamanyo22

and I hope you never fly a plane due to the fact that you think wheels are there to just make the plane roll when infact they have brakes on them, and there what stop you when you hit the ground.

Yes, but the wheels aren't what is truly moving the plane.

[QUINN]

Originally Posted by dandamanyo22

and I hope you never fly a plane due to the fact that you think wheels are there to just make the plane roll when infact they have brakes on them, and there what stop you when you hit the ground.

reread that before posting again

Originally Posted by AMidgetAndAClub

The brakes stop the plane. They cause friction to slow the plane.

exactly

[Lee]

Lmao Quinn, I wanted to say that.

It takes ****ing ages for a plane to stop !

[dandamanyo22]

I did read but mabye you didn't

He said that wheels on the plane are there just to make it so the plane doesn't touch the ground with the body. But they do more than just that they have brakes on them which also stop the plane from landing on the ground and flying off the runway because it can't stop.

it had nothing to do with can it lift off the ground or not.