Halo 3 More Like Halo 1?

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Originally Posted by iReV

you're not playing with any good players if you think 3sk's in h1 are easy. especially since pros dont even tsk all that often, i highly doubt that you're tsking people left and right. if anything action is much faster in h1. you strafe faster, you can actually incorporate ducking into your strafe to make you harder to hit, strategic jumps are actually hard to do, you use a more variety of weapons rather than just five ( 3 of which are power weapons) (br, rocket, snipe, sword, shottie). double melee is actually somewhat difficult to execute... in h1, if you have a good pistol you can drop 2 people in a straight up pistol fight before they can drop you.

h1 is more skill based in almost every sense of the word. the br is so damn slow in terms of how fast you can drop people (unless you're able to two or three shot everytime). the whole reason why h2 requires teamwork is because of this fact alone. you can't kill people with the br quick enough, so you need teammates to help you br someone. in addition you dont have gay lunges for melees that were designed 'to improve melee accuracy for online play', when half the time it misses. er and in h2 MC seems to suffer from tunnel vision, where you can't see anything beyond maybe a 30 degree arc.

you forget everything bungie has redone to h2...the patches etc... are all in an effort to make the game MORE LIKE h1. MLG rules are the same thing. they recognized the flawed settings that come default with h2 that make the game weak for competitive play and turned it into a game where teamwork, skill, and timing were issues that needed to be dealt with, like in h1.

the only parts of h2 that i think are better over h1 are the improved reticule movement in the vertical direction, the teamwork aspect/map design for 4v4 play, and the fact that there is no off-shots in h2. in addition h2 doesn't suffer from in game lag when a lot of weapons are being fired onscreen. not that this should be a problem with the huge processing power of hte 360.

i will agree that h1 is an inferior game to h2 when it comes to 4v4 play, because the map design combined with spawning with 4 nades makes the game extremely chaotic at this point. objective type games are better made combined with the map desgn make them more enjoyable on h2.

i really hope that in h3, the skill level is raised, and hopefully a better weapon system (i wouldn't mind seeing the h1 weapon respawn system back in place) so that 2v2 and slayer games wouldn't be so monotonous anymore.

the pistol is not a cheap weapon. it was an equalizer. the arguments that MLG players use for why you should spawn with a br are based purely on the fact of how halo 1 was played.

I agree a lot. But you even implied this without even knowing it prolly. Halo 1 the better players win, wile halo 2 the better team wins. I enjoy team more then individual. I hope halo 2 finds a happy medium between the games to perfect it. And really dude I play Lan halo 1 still almost everday with my brothers, I can still 3 shot them half way across blood gultch. how is that not easy?

[iReV]

right in h1 the better players win? in h1 the aspect of teamwork is just more subtle. good h1 players aren't just good skill wise, they're good teamwise as well. doesnt' it seem odd to you that the best players in h1 are amongst some of the best players in h2? teamwork in h1 means nading down a powerup for your buddy at the right moment, or forcing a good spawn for your teammate when your in a bad situation. it means nading weapons to your teammates or knowing when running out and dieing so you guys get a better spawn is more advantageous than putting up a fight and giving the other team easy kills.

i often say to people who ask 'how can i get better with my br?'. not to knock your skill level or your brothers, but like i said, you're probably not playing with any good players for h1.

i used to think i was good at halo 1, before i met with a few other players that 'showed me the light' so to speak. one of my friends was a pro player back in h1 days (offered a contract by MLG, turned it down cuz he thought h2 sucked too much), and a few of my other friends who are amazing at the game, there is a true discernable skill gap between average, good, really good, and pro players. i would say with every 'gap', the next 'skill bar' could probably beat the lower 'skill bar' in a 1v1 match by about 20-1. in halo 1 when you get beat, you really feel like you got totally outclassed. in h2, when you get beat, half the time you wonder if 'i had just gotten that melee in, or 'if he hadn't shot that nade out of my hand' etc... at the wrong moment that the tide of the game would have turned. in halo 1 there was a very discernable skill gap, even amongst pros.

i will offer you that yes h2 is very teamwork based, and i'd like to see that return. hopefully bungie will find a balance where the skill required is upped, AND the teamwork area is preserved. like i said before i enjoy h2 when it comes to 4v4 play a lot more, and i think that hte objective games are great now for h2. but there are still a lot of elements of the game design itself that i hate.

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Originally Posted by AMP YouNgGuNNa

i like this news because i really like Halo 1 Campaign and really disliked Halo 2 campaign, i saw the AR in the trailer maybe some old weapons are coming back? we can only hope

ok fine, i tell you guys the secret, since my dad works at bungie. There bringing back the AR, and putting in the new Fuel Rod Streaming Beam Gun (found in halo 2 on hunters) also, theres going to be a new human weapon, finally guys, THE FLAME THROWER!!!! yup i know, my pants are wet too... my dad showed me a pic of an early drawing of it, and my oh my, my pants werent wet, there were BROWNNN.. the one game type im going to tell you about is where one team gets a probe and trys to sucessfully hover it into the enemys base and steal there plans (i know not really what halo is all about)

now thats a friggin update everyone wants to hear, not no "weve made a new map" update. lol...

[.aMp.]

i hope your not serious... a flame thrower would be REALLY gay and unecessary for halo

[OH MY GOD RATS]

Yea, I mean seriously, who uses a flamethrower in 2000whatever?

[J MAN UNIT]

zomg screw shotty id rather BURN SOME B****** BURN!!!!!!!!!!! THINK I IT HAD A GOOD RANGE U COULD SET A TRAP AN RAPE LIKE ONLY HELL KNOWS HOW TO!

[fattony69]

I would like to see more vehicles like an atv or something like that.

[dandamanyo22]

Originally Posted by DTR RUTH

halo 1 lacked two things graphics and xbl and if it had those things how many people would play halo 2?

um back in the day when it came out it was top of the line graphics its liek saying back in 1980 supermario had good graphics but now a days u dont think so

[.aMp.]

like tony said, an equal to a ghost for human would be L337 i think they will actually make an ATV ive heard rumors about that so much

[OH MY GOD RATS]

I hope they bring back the way you can aim out of the side-seat in first-person.

And an ATV would be suhweet.

Oh, and more playable characters for multiplayer. Grunt ftw!